samba - Jun 2006 - Excluding redirected directories causes file deletion on logout...

Hi,

Samba:  samba-3.0.21
OS:     OpenBSD

I built a new WinXP (sp2 and fully updated) box with the the idea of 
making a Default User profile.  I followed the directions in the "Making 
Happy Users" section of the Samba-3 By Example guide.

http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/happy.html#redirfold

Folder redirection is working, using the 
%LOGONSERVER%\profiles\%USERNAME%\ string to replace %USERPROFILE%.

But, when I use gpedit.mmc to exclude the redirected folders from the 
roaming profile, as instructed here

http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/happy.html#sbehap-locgrppol

all files in the redirected folders are deleted when the user logs out.

In other words, if a user logs in, downloads the firefox installer and 
saves it on the desktop, I can immediately see it in that user's 
/profiles/Desktop directory on the Samba server.  When the user logs out, 
the firefox installer is deleted from the /profiles/Desktop directory and 
obviously no longer on the Desktop when the user logs in again.

This surely can't be correct, but I don't know if this is a
documentation
problem, a Windows problem, or a samba problem.  If instead of putting the 
folders I redirected in the exclusion box, I _disable_ the whole "Exclude 
directories in roaming profile" option, I don't get the file deletion 
problem, however, I also then see the redirected folders copied to the 
users computer on login.

I put a copy of my smb.conf and a level 5 log of a new user logging in, 
getting and using the Default User profile, copying the firefox installer 
from /apps to his Desktop and then logging off on our web site

http://www.wykids.org/samba/


Many thanks,

Jeff Ross
Wyoming Children's Action Alliance

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Jeff Ross wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Samba:  samba-3.0.21
> OS:     OpenBSD
>
> I built a new WinXP (sp2 and fully updated) box with the the idea of making
a
> Default User profile.  I followed the directions in the "Making Happy
Users"
> section of the Samba-3 By Example guide.
>
> http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/happy.html#redirfold
>
> Folder redirection is working, using the %LOGONSERVER%\profiles\%USERNAME%\
> string to replace %USERPROFILE%.
>
> But, when I use gpedit.mmc to exclude the redirected folders from the
roaming
> profile, as instructed here
>
> http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/happy.html#sbehap-locgrppol
>
> all files in the redirected folders are deleted when the user logs out.
>
> In other words, if a user logs in, downloads the firefox installer and
saves
> it on the desktop, I can immediately see it in that user's
/profiles/Desktop
> directory on the Samba server.  When the user logs out, the firefox
installer
> is deleted from the /profiles/Desktop directory and obviously no longer on 
> the Desktop when the user logs in again.
>
> This surely can't be correct, but I don't know if this is a
documentation
> problem, a Windows problem, or a samba problem.  If instead of putting the 
> folders I redirected in the exclusion box, I _disable_ the whole
"Exclude
> directories in roaming profile" option, I don't get the file
deletion
> problem, however, I also then see the redirected folders copied to the
users
> computer on login.
>
> I put a copy of my smb.conf and a level 5 log of a new user logging in, 
> getting and using the Default User profile, copying the firefox installer 
> from /apps to his Desktop and then logging off on our web site
>
> http://www.wykids.org/samba/
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jeff Ross
> Wyoming Children's Action Alliance
As a followup for the archives, my initial diagnosis about the Excluded 
redirected directories causeing file deletion was not correct.  Instead, 
with redirected folders working, it appears that it is mandatory that the 
"Prevent roaming profile changes from propagating to the server" in
the
Group Policy editor be enabled.

Start->Run->gpedit.mmc->Computer Configuration->Administrative 
Templates->System->User Profiles

Enable "Do not check for user ownership of Roaming Profile Folders"
Enable "Delete cached copies of roaming profiles" (See IMPORTANT
below!)
Enable "Prevent roaming profile changes from propagating to the
server"

Start->Run->gpedit.mmc->User Configuration->Administrative
Templates->System->User Profiles

Enable "Exclude directories in roaming profile"
Put the directories you redirected with regedt32 in the exclusion box.

My list is:  Local Settings;Temporary Internet 
Files;History;Temp;Application Data;Cookies;Desktop;Favorites;My 
Documents;NetHood;PrintHood;Recent;SendTo;Start Menu;Templates


Hope that helps someone else in the future.  If I'm not correct in any of 
this, please reply to set the record straight.

Jeff Ross


IMPORTANT!  If your users use Outlook Express, or Outlook with the default 
setup, you CANNOT delete the cached copy of the local profile on logout. 
Outlook Express stores all of its junk in the Local Settings folder, and 
if this folder is deleted on logout, all POP mail, address books, and 
settings WILL BE DELETED!.

You might think that the Local Settings folder could also be redirected to 
the server, but Outlook Express will refuse to start if you do.

Thunderbird stores its mail in Application Data, so it works very well 
with redirected folders.