dovecot - Nov 2004 - [OT] Apple Mail.app access to localhost imap when no network

Hello,

Sorry for the offtopic subject, but I tried asking this on some Apple 
mailing lists and could not find an answer there, and as it's related 
to imap (provided by dovecot), someone might know something about this.

The problem is the following: I have a local IMAP server provided by 
dovecot, so that I can store my mail in maildir format, and read it 
both using mutt and Apple Mail.app. Mail.app is configured to access 
localhost:143 to access mail. However, I discovered that when there is 
no network connection (no ethernet cable plugged in and no wifi 
network), Mail.app is saying that it's working in disconnected mode and 
refuses to access the imap server.

Would someone have a suggestion as to what to do to allow connected 
access to localhost when no network is present? I'm very new to OS X (I 
come from Linux).

Thanks a lot,

Alan Schmitt
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> The problem is the following: I have a local IMAP server provided by 
> dovecot, so that I can store my mail in maildir format, and read it 
> both using mutt and Apple Mail.app. Mail.app is configured to access 
> localhost:143 to access mail. However, I discovered that when there is 
> no network connection (no ethernet cable plugged in and no wifi 
> network), Mail.app is saying that it's working in disconnected mode 
> and refuses to access the imap server.
>
> Would someone have a suggestion as to what to do to allow connected 
> access to localhost when no network is present? I'm very new to OS X 
> (I come from Linux).
I daily connect to my MacOS X box while disconnected, and i sometimes 
get the same error with Safari. Reloading the page solves it.

Doesn't asking Mail.app to go online for this account help?

If not, maybe try to make a specific network configuration where all 
network interfaces are disabled.

-- 
Bertrand

C'est au pied du mur qu'on voit le mieux le mur.

Le 22 nov. 04, ? 14:30, Simon Waters a ?crit :
>> I tried that, and it did not work. I guess Mail.app must be trying to
>> resolve some name (that is not localhost), and failing somehow.
>
> Stupid question, but does "localhost" resolve. Most systems it
must
> appear in
> /etc/hosts for it to resolve. You can always specify 127.0.0.1 as the 
> server
> to rule out name resolution.
Thanks for this suggestion. "localhost" does resolve (I tried to ping 
it, and it worked), and 127.0.0.1 does not change anything. So I guess 
my initial guess was wrong, and Mail must be trying to see if the 
network is up before even trying to log in.

Alan Schmitt
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Morning
On 22 Nov 2004, at 6:26pm, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Sorry for the offtopic subject, but I tried asking this on some Apple 
> mailing lists and could not find an answer there, and as it's related 
> to imap (provided by dovecot), someone might know something about 
> this.
>
> The problem is the following: I have a local IMAP server provided by 
> dovecot,
Local as your machine you are using or local area network?
> so that I can store my mail in maildir format, and read it both using 
> mutt and Apple Mail.app. Mail.app is configured to access 
> localhost:143 to access mail.
So this says it is machine you are using?
> However, I discovered that when there is no network connection (no 
> ethernet cable plugged in and no wifi network), Mail.app is saying 
> that it's working in disconnected mode and refuses to access the imap 
> server.
If it is your machine you are using try using its actual IP address.
>
> Would someone have a suggestion as to what to do to allow connected 
> access to localhost when no network is present? I'm very new to OS X 
> (I come from Linux).
If you have specified a specific interface through dovecot.conf, change 
it too imap_listen = *

HTH

Cheers!
Rob Davies
rob at rjdarts.com

"It is the world which makes known to us our belonging to a 
subject-communtiy, especially the existence in the world of the 
manufactured objects." Sartre.